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that president obama hopes to exploit as a weakness for mitt romney as well. that was a very telling moment in this debate tonight. >> we heard the vp talking about classified information, talking about his experience over and over tonight. now what we did want to take, when the congressman had a good moment. take a look. >> the unemployment rate is today? >> sure do. >> it's 10%. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it is going all around america. >> that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> is that his zinger tonight? >> it was obviously on the issue that romney hopes to exploit is jobs. he sort of suckered him into saying twice. and joe biden said right, and sort of acted like he hadn't heard what he just heard. if you were paying attention, that was a good moment and in general, when he stayed on the question of jobs, the congressman was credible tonight. >> joe joining us, thank you. back to you. it was a fun night in politics. >> thank you, grace. >>> the other big contest came with a very unhappy ending for the oakland a's. their phenomena
channels to talk the two nations off of the path of war if that is possible. >> and this their is a -- that president obama lost the first debate to mitt romney. >> now, the first crucial first encounter passed. what do the candidates need to do to keep it going or get the momentum back going? we fut putt that question to former san francisco mayor willie brown and the chronicle's joe garafoli. what should they do? >> obama has to re-establish his dominance on the intellectual side, on the -- [ indiscernible ] side, he has to re-establish his dominance on the excitement side. can he do that? i don't know. >> and mitt romney? >> mitt romney has to keep going, keep plowing through in the same way. he was concise and crisp. like the ceo and chief that he aspires to be. >> it was interesting. this is the first time i ever recalled seeing the former massachusetts governor mitt romney show up on stage. until now, he's been completely avoiding, you never would have known he was the governor in massachusetts. met last debate, everything was governors of massachusetts
a bird in the hand is worth three in the books. >> as you might expect, president obama and mitt romney saw today's job numbers much differently. >> today's news should give us some endirgement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other sim to talk some political points. >> the truth is, if the same people were working on the force, why would the reality be over 40%. >> they have been out of work six months or more. economists say we need to hire $425 every month to make a dent. >>> another deadly officer involved shooting. only this time it happened in a usually quiet community in heyward. it all started this morning when police stopped a stolen car near briar gateway and vanned deer built street. what left next that a r left a neighborhood shot. >> i was inside of his. >> shoes and evidence markers. investigators pressuring and documenting the scene. it's the too familiar aftermath of another shooting. this one involving a heyward police officer that left the suspect dead. >> hi approached the vehicle. he ordered that occupant self times to show his hands. the suspect did not compl
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